Hi Ufopolitics,
thanks again for your sharing! You offered a procedure I never dared to expect to experience in my life!

Regarding translations:
I saw too many poor translations on youtube because some are good in translating while others are experts in vids. I.e. I can provide quite good translations in German but my only expertise in vids is starting and stopping them.
My suggestion is to assign numbers to the individual pragraphs in a specific vid and post them here. Translations provided can be forwarded to experts in video processing. Because of the reference numbers those can provide translated vids even if they do not understand the language.
rgds John

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Hello Dear Lamare,

First, please allow me to express my many thanks for all your fine compliments to my work.
Second, please allow me to tell you the description as how a Magnetic Field Develops in a Spiral Shape is excellent and beautiful, and, as a matter of fact, I do think of reproducing it in Three Dimensional Transparency Dynamics Graphics in a near Future...after We All take care of the "Main Priorities" as is get on with the Reproduction and spread of all the knowledge I want to share here and other places...

However, I will use it, to show it "Versus" the way I conceive it is based according to all my Lab Work...I have felt this force, this interactions, with my own hands...and pieces of steel bars...for hours, tryng, like a "Blind Man" to feel its structure and dynamics...

I have still to disclose a Method where Permanent Magnets are not required for this Systems...either, a Massive Laminated "Bulky" Steel Core...and still obtaining a very, extremely robust Magnetic Field Stators Arrangement, that besides rendering their job as Stators...We get Radiant Energy out of them galore....through my First Thread here...And the thing is...Dear Lamre, this Fiberglass Core, very light that I have built...is composed of ONLY ONE SINGLE COIL OF WIRE across the Armatures...and, to "Top it Off", its Magnetic Fields as conceived by "Classic Physics" are supposed to project the Maximum Strength towards the ENDS of the Coil...Well, I am sorry to tell you...They DO NOT project "Outwards" the Heaviest and more Robust Fields...THEY ARE RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF COIL, My Dear friend.

To the Point that ANY ARMATURE, SYMMETRIC or ASYMMETRIC that We Slide inside that EM Tunnel, and supply a signal for switching On-Off, either through Brushes or Infra-Red Commutation Systems (Coming Soon Guys)...WILL SPIN AT INCREDIBLE RPM's AND POWER...while it Outputs a great deal of Energy as my Original Coil Set-Up with Two small ultra-fast diodes...Besides (if it is Asymmetric of course) it will also FEED through this new set here...the dual Commutation Systems Output.
Now, the fact of making a Stator based on Composites, light weight, and just Copper wire (for now, till we develop Carbon Fiber Coils) Carbon is way cheaper than Copper...
This fact, makes this machines "scalable" to Any desired size, according to demands/requirements that the consumer requires...

And Dear Lamare,I love"THE WITCH", and I am enjoying (not so much YET) to set this OBVIOUS CONSPIRACY, and NOT SAID only by ME, but from many, many others, like MR. TOM BEARDEN, who I feel great, great admiration for...as many more...IN THE WORST RIDICULE That this Crippled Science HAS EVER GONE THROUGH, TO KEEP US SLAVES OF OIL FUELS AND NUCLEAR FOR 130 YEARS...

Therefore let that "part" to me...remember my "Last Name" is...Politics...

I leave you a phrase from the brightest Scientist EVER, that was a Victim of this Scientific Mutilation, Suppression and Seizing, and Condemned to Die, in the worst poverty ever, and Ostracized like it should HAVE NEVER , EVER HAPPENED in the Story of Mankind...



"...It is not a dream, it is a simple feat of scientific electrical engineering, only expensive-blind, faint-hearted, doubting world!...Humanity is not yet sufficiently advanced to be willingly led by the discoverer's keen searching sense.But who knows?
Perhaps it is better in this present world of ours that a revolutionary idea or invention instead of being helped and patted, be hampered and ill-treated in its adolescence-by want of means, by selfish interest, pedantry, stupidity and ignorance; that will be attacked and stifled; that it pass through bitter trials and tribulations, through the strife of commercial existence. So do we get our light. So all that was great in the past was ridiculed, condemned, combated, suppressed- only to emerge all the more powerfully, all the more triumphantly from the struggle..."


Nikola Tesla (At the end of his dream for Wardenclyffe)



Regards


Ufopolitics

I think that we can skip the video editing part and paste the translated text straight into YouTube's close caption subtitles. I can do Polish
I've just ordered 3 small motors, I have no idea how many poles they got but I think I'll manage to get it running soon... Exciting times, thank You Ufo!

kEhYo

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Many Thanks Bert!!

Your description is awesome!!, you mention the opening where to run wires to, very smart to describe it!!


Many warm regards friend!!


Ufopolitics

Hi

I'll add this to Brets:

Winding instructions

Initial Marking Up

The end of the rotor with the longer shaft is called the upper-end. At the upper-end, using a permanent marker, number the upper commutators, 1 through to 5 in a clockwise direction. Now number the lower commutators, noting that they will take the number of the marked commutator vertically inline above.

Referring to fig 1, and looking at the upper-end of the rotor, locate commutator 1, noting that it is adjacent to a bar. Now move clockwise to the next bar, the slot clockwise from the bar, is Slot A. Mark the entrance to Slot A with a permanent marker, as shown – this is a reference point.
Winding:
At the upper-end attach the wire to commutator 1 tab. Take the wire down through slot A, and bring up through slot D, and take to slot A – this is one turn. Repeat for 24 more times, which will give 25 left windings.
Once the 25 winding are done, the wire should be at the upper-side of slot A. Take the wire down slot A, and bring up through slot C, and take to slot A; repeat 24 more times. After 25 right winding, take wire down slot A and attach wire to lower commutator 1 tab.

Winding 2
At the upper end, attach wire to upper commutator 2 tab.
Take wire down through Slot B and bring up through slot E, repeating for 25 turns. Then take wire down slot B and bring up through slot D, repeating 25 times. Take wire down slot B and attach wire to lower commutator 2 tab.

Winding 3

At the upper end, attach wire to upper commutator 3 tab.
Take wire down through Slot C and bring up through slot A, repeating for 25 turns. Then take wire down slot C and bring up through slot E, repeating 25 times. Take wire down slot E and attach wire to lower commutator 3 tab.

Winding 4

At the upper end, attach wire to upper commutator 4 tab.
Take wire down through Slot D and bring up through slot B, repeating for 25 turns. Then take wire down slot D and bring up through slot A, repeating 25 times. Take wire down slot D and attach wire to lower commutator 4 tab.

Winding 5

At the upper end, attach wire to upper commutator 5 tab.
Take wire down through Slot E and bring up through slot C, repeating for 25 turns. Then take wire down slot E and bring up through slot B, repeating 25 times. Take wire down slot E and attach wire to lower commutator 5 tab.

Job done!


UFO - Awesome stuff

I should add, as I’m a mere novice, I think there are a few tricks of the trade. The wire may appear to fill up the slot, but using a soft prod, like smooth plastic bar, the winding can be compressed in the slot, thus giving more space.



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Hi all

Just a small and crude video how to for the winding

hope this helps

good luck at all

ufo assymetric motor winding crude tuto 1 - YouTube

Amen, bro.

There's a vortex going trough the center of a coil, which looks like this:


And yes, sensitive people can feel one side of a magnet sucking and the other side blowing.


One of the biggest fallacies of current science (which is actually pseudo science) is the total neglecting of the power of the vortex.

THAT is the force that keeps the nucleus of an atom together, which pseudo science calls "strong" and "weak" nuclear forces.

And it is pseudo science by their own definition:
Pseudoscience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, what tests can be devised to determine the existence of a "strong" or "weak" nuclear force?

Really, the B.S. they came up with will be as unbelievable as the Earth is flat concept to our children. Paul Stowe wrote an excellent piece on how all forces of nature can be explained with an aether theory:

Tuks Unsorted KieknWatTWordt Stuff : Stowe Foundation Unification Physics



And yes, the work of our friend Nikola will rise like a phoenix from the ashes and the relativity theory as well as Quantum Mechanics will be nothing more than a footnote in the history books of the future.


Good. Some more vortex power to look forward too.

And they did not only cripple our science, BTW. They took away our God given rights known as Common Law:

Tuks Unsorted KieknWatTWordt Stuff : The Fascinating History Of Civil Law Versus Divine Common Law

BUT now we know how to liberate ourselves by declaring independence under Common Law, like the US did, meanwhile dumping the financial fraud problems on the entity that is responsible for those, the Vatican.



Let me leave you two quotes from Einstein then, who definitely did have his moments now and then:

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Hello to All!

I love how we are getting there so fast in replications...

"The Season of the Witch 2012"...

@Woopy: I will post later on some graphics on how to adjust your little nice motor to start "right away"...it has to be set at proper "Timming" just like we do with the Stinking and Greasy Dirty Gas Engines...by adjusting Distributor Shaft...well, that was for old engines though...now they adjust electronically...


Oh!, I have a great present here for you all to have lots of fun with...Well "presents for some...and kind of "Head Aches" for some Classic Symmetrical Physics "Experts"...

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Now this Three Poles is "applicable" to all multiples of three (3), as Six(6), and Nine(9)...Right John Stone?...

I started practicing in a Traxxas R/C Model, Now, there are two Models within same "family"...and they are rated within the "Symmetrical World" as per T (Turns)..like 12T...or 9T...the less the number of "T's", the fastest this motors will run...but also the faster they will burn to crispy, while putting the Batteries and controllers at limits of "Life and Explosion"...but We have Larry's Bunker...so is Ok...

The Model of biggest shaft, so we could work fine...is the TITAN 12T550, Now we just need one of those...then get a cheaper one (same body) that we could use to take off parts from...A TRAXXAS STINGER 20T, because this one is shorter of shaft but same Commutators and Body Mounts.

The draw Back in this models is that some "Body Tweak" will have to be done that requires some craftsmanship, and that is the positioning of "Firing Angles" (Brushes Positioning). This Motors DO NOT have them like I have posted on this diagram...but, at 90 degrees plane dividing Stators in half...Not Good...so there is some filing and cutting to allow right brush placing...no big deal though.

@John Stone: Thanks for your words!...And here you have a little package to get those Motors You have showed Us...into the Asymmetrical World...They will be very Happy Motors, I assure You that!

Now if you take a closer look at this Model above...It should not run...right?...well, notice they are Two Poles "supposed" to be North (N2-N3) While N-1 is being fired...Therefore N3 should be attracted towards center of South (Red) Stator...opposing rotation...and N2 is been repelled by North Stator, ALSO "supposed" to "Counter Effect Rotation...??!!

So... it should not turn Right Lamar?...However, it DOES!...and AWESOME!!


Now, why do you think that Happens Lamar?...If "supposedly" this Coils-Inductors "never" change their polarity??!!...


Regards to All


Ufopolitics

So I decide to come check out the forum for the first time in while and find this. Intriguing. The 3 pole reminds me much like the Romero device. Center magnet t.d.c.. magnet left and right of tdc are in attraction to coils but balanced. But a brush less version. Hopefully get to radio shack tomorrow.

Hello Redrichie, and welcome!!


Radio Shack do not have them, I mean they do have 3 Pole...but much smaller than the Five Poles...However, you may find a similar version of TRAXXAS, at Pep Boys (Toys R/C Section...as they use them to power the R/C Trucks and race cars...actually they are cheaper there...but do not know if they have the longer shaft one...
Also the Handheld Drills have them in 3 Poles...and some in 5 Poles...so have to make sure...

Regards


Ufopolitics

Thanks but I mean the 5 pole. Any videos of what a load does on the output yet? Or charging into a cap or Anything of the sort? Maybe another motor?

All this motors charge Caps, but have to do it through blocking diodes to prevent Output Coils "re-energize" back.

Did You see my BOSCH Motor Video below Ritchie?

20090823173537 - YouTube


Thanks


Ufopolitics

Hi folks, Hi ufopolitics, thanks for sharing the 3 pole setup.
So I assume when you say it should not run well that way, you are referring to the fact that if the N2 or N3 poles did not change magnetic polarity, then they would tend to resist the motor motion.
Though at the speed these armatures are moving, that the coil collapse is aiding the motor rotation and possibly also briefly countering the induced counter emf upon coil energizing, just as you have claimed.
Makes sense to me.
I will now wind some new coils on my small 3 pole motor, etc.
Thanks again UFO for all you are doing and sharing.
peace love light
tyson

UFO,
Is your BOSCH a multiple of 3, or did you use a different wiring schematic for it?

Dave

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Hello Tyson,

Yes exactly as I said, and you said now...they DO reverse magnetic polarity, and assist rotation big time...while returning our Input magnified...

Now the turns here would be as much of a decent gauge it will allow...You could "pack them" as you finish Coils, basically at sides to allow for the other Coils to fit, and also the furthest away from core the commutator would be...the more space you would have...packing could be with a plastic (not sharp, but very soft piece, rounded smooth , or could be also a Paint Wood stick...


Well if you look at it...there are two Coils against just one (N-1)...it is not "supposed" to move at all right?

This is "THE REAL" Counter effect, Tyson...the Symmetry produces a "Fake" a False one...is forced to be created through reversal of polarities, killing the real one...That is "The Story Teller" proven here, my friend.

Regards and much peace,love and light for you too my dear friend


Ufopolitics

UFO

Your theory on the coil reversing polarity is a simple thing to check out. Take one of the many coils you have with an air core and attach a magnet to the end of a wooden rod so that the poll that attracts to the coil when the coil is powered on is facing the coil. Now when you turn the coil on the magnet and the rod will be pulled into the coil (opposite magnetic fields attract). Then if the polarity changes when you turn the coil off it should try to move the magnet and rod out of the coil (now like magnetic fields fields repel), but it won't... it will just drop. I guess I could put up a video to demonstrate it.

Also see this site for the explanation of both inductive spike and back EMF.

That's all I have to say.

What is the formula for transient spike computation in an inductive load

Good By
Larry

Hi ufo, thanks for the reply and the good information.
90 turns of 30awg magnet wire seems to fill one pole pretty well on my 3 pole motor.
@ufo, I think I comprehend what you are saying abut the fake counter effect being created by the symmetry and I will draw this 3 pole in CAD to see the difference between this and the standard commutation setup.
Thanks again ufoP.
peace love light
tyson

Larry...it is obvious you have not seen my videos...

20090823162839 - YouTube

20090823173537 - YouTube

You and anyone out there...Prove me wrong, debunk, or explain my Motors Generators...then I will listen...Ok??

That IS ALL I have to say...Ok?


Thanks


Ufopolitics

UFOPolitics,

Thanks for all the work you are putting to make it easier for others to replicate!

Have my motors and will get started later today.

Not sure if you saw my other post but it was asking you to name your new baby (the RadioShack 5 pole version)?

IndianaBoys

@Ufo
Just to be sure and safe me rewiring labor:
Guess I can use the same wiring instruction of the 5-pole motor for my pole 7-motors, and just add two extra coil-pairs.
Or do I need another wiring instruction?

Bert

This is what am going to say here...

I have been exposing my Work here,...and I admit, as you could see in some later videos...I do not have a good calmed, cool temper at all times...but an ITALIAN mixed with Spanish one, that is not good at all, I know!!..so I please ask you guys something...

This Thread is for my work exposure, and discussion, NOT to argue about Theories I have learned for a long time...therefore, I consider an insult to my Intelligence...for anyone trying to "refresh" old knowledge...Ok?

Let me remind you, that I also have access to Internet (as you can see me here), but also, to MUCH MORE Clever and Complicated "stuff"...than searching "Wikipedia" or "Google" or Yahoo...

So, May I ask, please, that before you direct to ME, with some kind of "opinion" or "Critic" or trying to tell me anything on "How it really Works Deals" crap...You do the following...

Please, review My QUALITY of Work here in its ENTIRETY, Watch My Quality of Videos on YouTube, please, WATCH MY MODELS AND LAB TESTINGS...My CAD Diagrams...and then keep watching some more...

But Please, I DID NOT came here to argue about "Physics" or Magnetism...or to learn about Inductors behavior, or the way magnets or motors and generators workkkkk????!!!!!


SO, All of you that come here, with that attitude and intentions "IN MIND"...This is what I want you to do... go ahead, and after you watch my prototypes, my videos, read my threads basic posts, etc, etc...Then go and CHECK OUT, all other Members WHO ARE DOING EXACTLY, WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE HERE...TO REPLICATE MY WORK, TEST IT AND COME BACK TO POST RESULTS!!

Then I want you to DEBUNK it with ALL your links, with all your theories, with all your knowledge learned...and tell me...what you think...and explain, explain, explain...OR ADMIT, that THEY F*** WORK!!!

OK??

So I could really care less...How many keep posting the "How it Works" BS...I will just ignore you...

I really do not appreciate that!!

Hi folks.
Hi ufoP., ok I was just examining the standard 3 pole motor compared to how how yours is setup.
One thing that really sticks out and is easy to comprehend, is the fact that the north and south magnetic field of each coil is used efficiently compared to the standard 3 pole commutation setup.
That alone will boost the output of these 3 pole motors, along with the other not so easily discerned improvements ufoP is pointing out.
peace love light
tyson

Hello Bert,

I guess you could try my friend, you could just expand it to seven pairs... I have not done a seven pole ever- that is a weird motor combination, but interesting though...How many poles it has...and brushes?
So I could sketch it and tell you later on...

If you could shoot a pic of it and show me, would be great...I will have an idea.


Thanks and regards

Ufopolitics

Yes you are right Tyson,

A Symmetric three pole will use an inductor coil as to transfer the current but not energizing at some ratios of the turns...not like this ones...
But You will see the difference and tell me...

Thanks


Ufo

Hi Ufo,

A big thank you for all your hard work.

In trying to understand things, as far as I can see at the moment the 5 pole motor (as this is the one i'm working on at this time) doesn't use the energy from the motor fields as they collapse when the respective commutator leaves the brush and field is broken and could still be another part of further design. Can you please correct me if I understand this wrong.

netica

I am sorry, I did not understood your question quite well my friend...

When the Motor Coil leaves the area of contact with the brush...it travels free, idling...it is a Charged Coil and then it meets the delivery side brushes Netica...at 180 degrees apart...there is where you collect the energy...and read it...or use it...

Regards

Ufo

As allways, very generous of you my friend.
Here are the pictures.
The size is slightly bigger then your RC motors, with just two brushes.
I already stripped the coils and added a commutator.
Guess I need to rip of condensers and small yoke coils at the brushes.

Regard, Bert

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Congratulations woopy,
Am v v happy to see your success. You r too quick.
Can you please measure current of original and then ufo modified motor also rpm before and after??
Bestregards,
D.J

Hello to all the ones who are replicating here...


Just for ALL of you out there, I know you are interested in building it with me here...this is what is supposed to be done...and that is why am here!!

Thanks!

Here is the 750 Watts BOSCH Motor Diagram I have run with that miniature battery for more than seven minutes in my last testing...and could not stop it...it carries me on an electric scooter with three LiPo's (36V) and hauling ...



It has 20 poles, four stators, four brushes on each upper lower ends...I wound it with 18 awg, around 20 turns per coil of two pairs...I have to make a resistance measurement and I will post it later on...On this motors is easy to do that "per Two Pairs of coils" since it has four Motor Brushes, all to do is rotate the armature...till find a good contact...they are also great to be able to diagnose that way...for open coils...

@Mathew Jones: This is it Matt, sorry I did not had the CAD at the time you posted your question, and no, it is not like the connections you have shown before...

Now, for sake of simplicity and not to fill it up with 20 Pairs of Coils...I have set it with just the Four Pairs that are interacting at the brush contacts...but the same "Laws Apply"...they are all wound in same directions...and starting all at one commutator and end at the other one...

Now, in order not to get confused with the number of poles config or else ...

Just think as a straight coil that you have separated in Two Halves right at their center, and inserted one right next to the other half, where the both sections facing outwards toward stators...were the upper-lower ends at its straight (before) shape...

It is Ok to do "Finger rolling in the air, like following the wounds while turning to next pole"...just try that no one is watching you...or is going to think you have gone mentally insane...



Regards


Ufopolitics

Hello My friend...

That is a very good quality motor!!...not like all the Chinese crap we find around in most stuff!!..It seems like this motor was in a pretty sophisticated equipment (Audio-or sensitive electronics)...is specially designed for "A" Purpose...and the little inductors tell me that...

Yes, just get rid of them...they were there to catch the "trapped and reversed crashed" Radiant......We do not need them...

Now Bert, if you could wait till I figure on a CAD...I say now that am not sure, because there is gonna be too much overlapping there of 14 Coils...it used to be one coil per pole right?...so the other thing I need is to shut a pic from above with stators positioning and armature (no upper cap) (to see how many poles are involved per pole)...


The thing with this Asymm motors is that Coils at Motor-Gen can not be facing each others at 180 degrees...or will cancel electrical flow...because of opposed Magnetic Fields...

Thanks


Regards


Ufo