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Hi all,

@ZeropointEnergy
Thank you for your reply. I use 7AH SLAB for 12v testing and car batteries for 36v, I prefer not to use psu.
I have also tried to charge batteries, but I consider the increment that I see that he is due to the high voltage of the peaks. My better ratio (input/output) hovers around the 80 %.


I also believe the same as you. I have also seen a curious effect, 2 violet parallel and constant lines (without arcs) between neon's legs and the plasma. My neon already shows signs of being deteriorated, the glass is blackened.

The new coil is done, I already have tried it. Drain current decreased of 390mA to 290mA.
Something rare happens with my oscillator and the range of frequency, I have to investigate it.

Bad news:
My calculations of input/output give me 85-95% performance.

I have tried with a filament bulb of 40w-220v and I can light it, but rising the input over the 40w.

Hey Torpex,

I think that can be solved by either matching the impedence between the input/output or modifying the oscillator circuit for less on time (TH) in the duty cycle. I know that experimenting with this circuit that the R1+R2 in the astable timer/PWM circuit play a larger role in the current draw than the Rb and when I changed the base resistance exponentionly higher the current draw was not linear. Did not even change as only the R1+R2 seem to affect it.

I have seen the 2 parallel lines with the plasma arcs on the legs and this effect in my build seems to start at low Hz and when you back it off slighly and turn off the lights you obtain the strobing effects along with the Radiant blight pulses/flashes that can be seen easier as I'm sure you have noticed my friend.

Speaking of blackened glass. I have a neon that is a short circuit due to only one of the legs and the whole side of the glass burnt out when I blew that and a transitor charging a sulfated battery with the SSG.

That was to express how damaged it was and I do not want to get off topic here. This is about UFO's circuit.

Therefore, I placed this on the output of the PWM circuit and the single leg lights up via Tesla's single wire transmission/impulse tech. I think this was amazing by itself since I know that this neon is a short and will not work in "ANY" other hot circuit and thus is an aspect that needs further exploration.
Other cool effect was the Radiant field that is only generated by the single leg and I will make a clip tonight to show the electromagnetic/magnetic levitation or attraction/repulsion properties.

Can also get magnets to jump in the air by the repelling effect of the Radiant field. Is NO iron used, thus has to be the Radiant field interacting with the magnetic particles in a constant state of flux in the magnet and the bloch wall of the coil. North pole of the magnet against the coils north will produce the coolest effect

Hope to have it made and on youtube in a few hrs and thanks again UFO more providing more amazing things to experiment with another Radiant energy circuit.
Any and all things Radiant would take up 24hrs of my life if I had anything to say about it

Regards
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I am still trying to get caught up and only on page #9 (too many spring outdoor projects). I have a question... I hope it hasn't already been addressed, if so please guide me to the page range where it is discussed. My question is... I can see and understand the diodes blocking the hot side current during the initial hot side voltage/current rise, but the diodes do nothing against the current generated by the collapse of the magnetic field on the primary coil which will be in the opposite direction, but in the same direction as the radiant current and this hot current will not be isolated from the cold side by the diodes. I am sure I am missing something so clarification would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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Hello Larry,

In order for my explanation to be understood properly, you must see this phenomena , not from the 'Old Electrical Concepts' of the B EMF or C EMF "as a single collapsing field...generating an opposite current .."
If you try to understand this from this angle-point of view...it will be very difficult...
In all this thread I have tried to explain this in every way possible, however, the way to look at it is from the Electromagnetic Interactions and NOT from the electrical flow.
First the Hot EM field does collapses, I do understand and accept that as a fact, but then that collapse originates the rise of a secondary field, opposite and much stronger, and that opposite field generates an inverse current which IS NOT the same Hot Current.
It is very little what is known about this...but it is completely described in just two words..."Electromagnetic Feedback" or "Electromagnetic Resonance" .
The two Diodes allow that reversed flow, NOT to keep cycling within the Hot Loop, creating the 'parasitical and random spikes' but to exit to a secondary circuit in an organized form, to the point of steadily lighting a CFL...or continuously powering a Brush Motor without any reversed flow, therefore running very cold, and with zero arcing in their commutators.

A "Typical" Symmetrical Electromagnetic System would be the pulsed Coil, with just a Flywheel Diode to enclose all those opposite currents within ...Now, once that you connect those two diodes, the System is No Longer Symmetrical but Asymmetrical...

I hope this explanation helped You to understand this a bit better.

Regards

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Hello UFO
I want to apologize for the last dumb question. I am a 20 year electronic tech and I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around your concept, but the light is coming on slowly. I am 68 years old and retired so I haven't been involved to any extent for a while and do have preconceived notions about electronics, but have a very open mind and know there has to be more than I have been taught.
I think I have found one of the things I missed. You are not powering the secondary coil with the magnetic flux link between the coils (conventional way to power the secondary), but putting the secondary coil in the circuit in series with the primary and driving it with the back/counter EMF of the primary.
I am going back and compile your instructions in to a document which will be much easier to follow. Once compiled I will email it to you for critique and proofing.

Thanks again for sharing
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Good to hear it. My MOSFETs are always hot. It may be that the lower voltage doesn't produce the heat. (?) I will have to try charging with 12v and see how it goes.

I always want to use a battery as the Primary. This is the only way I know to really be able to know what is happening and it seems to receive back charging.

Enjoy,

Bob
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Continued tests.

UFO et al,

I have continued the battery charging with the 36v banks (3x 12v, 16Ah). As they started out low (36.4v each), the first charge sessions (one way, then the other) was disappointing. During the time that I left them to charge, the Primary ran down and stopped (like 17v!) before I got back to them. This happened both times (each direction).

So I decided to make another 36v bank out of my 100Ah batteries which were low (35.15v), but more capacity. I charged one of the other (16Ah) banks and this went OK. The Primary started at 35.15v and ended at 34.89v (measured after one hour rest to recover). The charge bank (which I was also the charge bank of the previous session) started at 35.05v and ended at 36.7v. During this charging the charge bank rose to 38.09v within 15 minutes and then defended to 37.7v at the end of 3 3/4 hours, resting at 36.7v after an hour of stopping the charging. I had charged using 1.15A at 284Hz and 11.2% duty cycle.

Then I changed things up and started trying different settings which eventually lead me to charging at 2018Hz 1.2A and 41% duty cycle. The Primary actually rose for the first hour from 33.16v at 10:19PM up to 33.44v at 11:21 and was still at 33.39v at 12:17AM. The next time I checked it was at 4:40AM. It measured 33.00v, the frequency had risen to 2418Hz with a 40.8% duty cycle. i stopped the charging at 9:00AM and the Primary measured 34.58v at 10:15AM and the charge bank was 38.00v

That ain't too bad, not great, but...

I started another test using the previously charged bank (38.00v at rest) as the Primary and the other 16Ah bank which measured 31.36v (having recovered from around 17v). The following is data for the current session:

Primary Charge Bank
(3x 12v, 16Ah) (3x 12v, 16Ah)
38.00v 31.00v 10:26 all at rest
37.20v 39.20v 10:30 1.2A, 2030Hz, 43% duty cycle
37.00 38.60v 11:10 " " " "
36.80v 39.00v 11:40 " " " "
36.70v 40.00v 12:03 " " " "
36.40v 40.70v 1:00 " " " "

At this point I had to leave for town. I am writing this while in town and can't wait to see where it's at when I get back! They are responding to the RE charge now...getting more capacity and taking charge better.

When I have a little time, I will write about my experience with batteries being charge with RE going up and then down.

I posted the corrected and updated compiled circuit at:

Pictures by bobfrench - Photobucket

Enjoy,

Bob
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UFO et al,

I have continued the battery charging with the 36v banks (3x 12v, 16Ah). As they started out low (36.4v each), the first charge sessions (one way, then the other) was disappointing. During the time that I left them to charge, the Primary ran down and stopped (like 17v!) before I got back to them. This happened both times (each direction).

So I decided to make another 36v bank out of my 100Ah batteries which were low (35.15v), but more capacity. I charged one of the other (16Ah) banks and this went OK. The Primary started at 35.15v and ended at 34.89v (measured after one hour rest to recover). The charge bank (which I was also the charge bank of the previous session) started at 35.05v and ended at 36.7v. During this charging the charge bank rose to 38.09v within 15 minutes and then defended to 37.7v at the end of 3 3/4 hours, resting at 36.7v after an hour of stopping the charging. I had charged using 1.15A at 284Hz and 11.2% duty cycle.

Then I changed things up and started trying different settings which eventually lead me to charging at 2018Hz 1.2A and 41% duty cycle. The Primary actually rose for the first hour from 33.16v at 10:19PM up to 33.44v at 11:21 and was still at 33.39v at 12:17AM. The next time I checked it was at 4:40AM. It measured 33.00v, the frequency had risen to 2418Hz with a 40.8% duty cycle. i stopped the charging at 9:00AM and the Primary measured 34.58v at 10:15AM and the charge bank was 38.00v

That ain't too bad, not great, but...

I started another test using the previously charged bank (38.00v at rest) as the Primary and the other 16Ah bank which measured 31.36v (having recovered from around 17v). The following is data for the current session:

Primary Charge Bank
(3x 12v, 16Ah) (3x 12v, 16Ah)
38.00v 31.00v 10:26 all at rest
37.20v 39.20v 10:30 1.2A, 2030Hz, 43% duty cycle
37.00 38.60v 11:10 " " " "
36.80v 39.00v 11:40 " " " "
36.70v 40.00v 12:03 " " " "
36.40v 40.70v 1:00 " " " "

At this point I had to leave for town. I am writing this while in town and can't wait to see where it's at when I get back! They are responding to the RE charge now...getting more capacity and taking charge better.

When I have a little time, I will write about my experience with batteries being charge with RE going up and then down.

I posted the corrected and updated compiled circuit at:

Pictures by bobfrench - Photobucket

Enjoy,

Bob

Hello Bob,

Well, real tests...I see them as pretty good final results, being the fact that there is not an specific circuit to provide a charging accurate and precise rate as the Batteries require...
I have to make a test with an old battery...to drill small holes at Neg-Pos end cells and insert a heavy copper wire (making sure that it does not touches the cells but in contact with the acid) and send Radiant Pos to Positive and Neg to Negative...They are suppose to get charged at very fast rates.

But you did a very constant and precise testing there Bob!!


Regards


Ufopolitics
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Hey Torpex,

I think that can be solved by either matching the impedence between the input/output or modifying the oscillator circuit for less on time (TH) in the duty cycle. I know that experimenting with this circuit that the R1+R2 in the astable timer/PWM circuit play a larger role in the current draw than the Rb and when I changed the base resistance exponentionly higher the current draw was not linear. Did not even change as only the R1+R2 seem to affect it.

I have seen the 2 parallel lines with the plasma arcs on the legs and this effect in my build seems to start at low Hz and when you back it off slighly and turn off the lights you obtain the strobing effects along with the Radiant blight pulses/flashes that can be seen easier as I'm sure you have noticed my friend.

Speaking of blackened glass. I have a neon that is a short circuit due to only one of the legs and the whole side of the glass burnt out when I blew that and a transitor charging a sulfated battery with the SSG.

That was to express how damaged it was and I do not want to get off topic here. This is about UFO's circuit.

Therefore, I placed this on the output of the PWM circuit and the single leg lights up via Tesla's single wire transmission/impulse tech. I think this was amazing by itself since I know that this neon is a short and will not work in "ANY" other hot circuit and thus is an aspect that needs further exploration.
Other cool effect was the Radiant field that is only generated by the single leg and I will make a clip tonight to show the electromagnetic/magnetic levitation or attraction/repulsion properties.

Can also get magnets to jump in the air by the repelling effect of the Radiant field. Is NO iron used, thus has to be the Radiant field interacting with the magnetic particles in a constant state of flux in the magnet and the bloch wall of the coil. North pole of the magnet against the coils north will produce the coolest effect

Hope to have it made and on youtube in a few hrs and thanks again UFO more providing more amazing things to experiment with another Radiant energy circuit.
Any and all things Radiant would take up 24hrs of my life if I had anything to say about it

Regards
Zero

Hey Group,

Here is the clip I mentioned. However, I spent 2 hours uploading and writing a large explaination about this relationship to Tesla patent: 685 957 and the Eric Dollard emperiments, but YT cancelled my clip at 100%.

Has been uploaded again with a basic explaination.

Magnetic Forces generated from the Radiant field around the Neon bulb - 20th May 2012.AVI - YouTube

If I had the parts from the US I would be experimenting further but to me this is the most pivitol aspect and needs further exploration. I can see a pulse motor easily working off the Radiant magnetic force generated from the neon bulb. Just have to imagine harnessing this energy off a few 600W light to potential energy released to power a motor for example from this field.

And the compressions of energy from the vacuum generated in the bloch wall of the coil (middle of coil) has not even been tapped with a coil yet

Regards
Zero
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It would be great if you could try and show magnetic field lines (if any exist) generated using iron filings or by using that magnetic field viewing plastic film stuff. Great demonstration by the way!

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It would be great if you could try and show magnetic field lines (if any exist) generated using iron filings or by using that magnetic field viewing plastic film stuff. Great demonstration by the way!

Orion
@ Orion.

That is a fantastic idea and I was going to use the iron or other small magnetic material to see from where the neon bulb produces the greatest force.
The magnetic plastic film or modifying an old PC monitor will be a great tool for this and thanks for the input

I have been using the magnet from the clip to compare the distance travelled from varying sections of the bulb. Further investigation is needed at this stage.

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UFO et al,

I have continued the battery charging with the 36v banks (3x 12v, 16Ah). As they started out low (36.4v each), the first charge sessions (one way, then the other) was disappointing. During the time that I left them to charge, the Primary ran down and stopped (like 17v!) before I got back to them. This happened both times (each direction).

So I decided to make another 36v bank out of my 100Ah batteries which were low (35.15v), but more capacity. I charged one of the other (16Ah) banks and this went OK. The Primary started at 35.15v and ended at 34.89v (measured after one hour rest to recover). The charge bank (which I was also the charge bank of the previous session) started at 35.05v and ended at 36.7v. During this charging the charge bank rose to 38.09v within 15 minutes and then defended to 37.7v at the end of 3 3/4 hours, resting at 36.7v after an hour of stopping the charging. I had charged using 1.15A at 284Hz and 11.2% duty cycle.

Then I changed things up and started trying different settings which eventually lead me to charging at 2018Hz 1.2A and 41% duty cycle. The Primary actually rose for the first hour from 33.16v at 10:19PM up to 33.44v at 11:21 and was still at 33.39v at 12:17AM. The next time I checked it was at 4:40AM. It measured 33.00v, the frequency had risen to 2418Hz with a 40.8% duty cycle. i stopped the charging at 9:00AM and the Primary measured 34.58v at 10:15AM and the charge bank was 38.00v

That ain't too bad, not great, but...

I started another test using the previously charged bank (38.00v at rest) as the Primary and the other 16Ah bank which measured 31.36v (having recovered from around 17v). The following is data for the current session:

Primary Charge Bank
(3x 12v, 16Ah) (3x 12v, 16Ah)
38.00v 31.00v 10:26 all at rest
37.20v 39.20v 10:30 1.2A, 2030Hz, 43% duty cycle
37.00 38.60v 11:10 " " " "
36.80v 39.00v 11:40 " " " "
36.70v 40.00v 12:03 " " " "
36.40v 40.70v 1:00 " " " "

At this point I had to leave for town. I am writing this while in town and can't wait to see where it's at when I get back! They are responding to the RE charge now...getting more capacity and taking charge better.

When I have a little time, I will write about my experience with batteries being charge with RE going up and then down.

I posted the corrected and updated compiled circuit at:

Pictures by bobfrench - Photobucket

Enjoy,

Bob
Hey Bob,

Great data collection as per usual and thanks for uploading the drawing with the corrected wire (looking and do not see it?). Other than changing the capacitor from 0.1uF to 0.01uF going to +VCC, parallel with the non-inverting pins and another pot added in series with pin 2 in parallel with the inverting pins/inputs.

Did I miss something mate?

P.S - Cant wait for other order I placed an order for more LM339's

Regards
Zero
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UFO,

This is very interesting that we can charge directly into the acid of a battery. I would like to hear more about that. You can seal batteries and do repairs on them with hot glue guns. There is even special hot glue formulated for it, thouhg standard hot glue will work.

I was starting another test and forgot to turn down the duty cycle...and let the smoke out of at least one MOSFET. It was dark so I left it until daylight. We'll see.

Charging LA batteries has taught me a lot about them. Most are messed up from conventional and incomplete charging. One of the most common effects that I run into is that because the battery is sulphated the voltage will immediately jump up a lot. Then it will start coming down, stop, then start charging up. To me this normal when charging w/ RE.

Prpoerly charging with Radiant will de-sulphate and capacitate (a word that II made up meaning to expand the capacity) the battery. John Bedini explains that RE charrging creates a crystal matrix of the plates, transforming them, and expands their capacity and allows them to accept a charge way faster. So a 35Ah battery willis act like a 65Ah battery.

One of the things that can seal happen is that you can get false readings with the meter because as the battery's capacity expands it spreads the energy out accross this larger area and the meter shows a lower voltage even though the batgery has MORE energy in it. Ha ha. Funny. So meters don't mean anything if you don't understand the real situation facing you at the time. There are these weird factors to take into account and it is very important to condition your batteries before doing definative testing as they will be changing the way they act until they are fully conditioned. A conditioned (de-sulphated and capacitated) is an OU device when charged radiantly. It will take less to charge it than it will put out and it will charge very fast.

I have ordered some tiny heat shrink tubing which I want to slip over the CF so I can make a coil. Also, plans are formulating to get more ParaCore (I will send you a few pounds when I get it). I think these two materials in the right geometry with a standaed magnet wire coil may give us very good result...stay tuned.

Zero,

Doing the demonstration of the neon's effect on top of the coil completely invalidates it. The coil is an electromagnet. Show us again with the neon totally away from such things. It is a very interesting idea. Thank you.

All,

I posted the compiled circuit on Photobucket (see previous post for link). This circuit fit on a little 2x2 CB from Radio Shack (except for the MOSFETs, pots, and coil). I hope this will help many people to replicate UFO's fine device.

I live in Shelbyville, TN (middle TN). Does anybody on this forum live within a 4-6 hour drive? We should pull together a mini-conferene for a weekend.

Good luck,

Bob
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UFO,

This is very interesting that we can charge directly into the acid of a battery. I would like to hear more about that. You can seal batteries and do repairs on them with hot glue guns. There is even special hot glue formulated for it, thouhg standard hot glue will work.

I was starting another test and forgot to turn down the duty cycle...and let the smoke out of at least one MOSFET. It was dark so I left it until daylight. We'll see.

Charging LA batteries has taught me a lot about them. Most are messed up from conventional and incomplete charging. One of the most common effects that I run into is that because the battery is sulphated the voltage will immediately jump up a lot. Then it will start coming down, stop, then start charging up. To me this normal when charging w/ RE.

Prpoerly charging with Radiant will de-sulphate and capacitate (a word that II made up meaning to expand the capacity) the battery. John Bedini explains that RE charrging creates a crystal matrix of the plates, transforming them, and expands their capacity and allows them to accept a charge way faster. So a 35Ah battery willis act like a 65Ah battery.

One of the things that can seal happen is that you can get false readings with the meter because as the battery's capacity expands it spreads the energy out accross this larger area and the meter shows a lower voltage even though the batgery has MORE energy in it. Ha ha. Funny. So meters don't mean anything if you don't understand the real situation facing you at the time. There are these weird factors to take into account and it is very important to condition your batteries before doing definative testing as they will be changing the way they act until they are fully conditioned. A conditioned (de-sulphated and capacitated) is an OU device when charged radiantly. It will take less to charge it than it will put out and it will charge very fast.

I have ordered some tiny heat shrink tubing which I want to slip over the CF so I can make a coil. Also, plans are formulating to get more ParaCore (I will send you a few pounds when I get it). I think these two materials in the right geometry with a standaed magnet wire coil may give us very good result...stay tuned.

Zero,

Doing the demonstration of the neon's effect on top of the coil completely invalidates it. The coil is an electromagnet. Show us again with the neon totally away from such things. It is a very interesting idea. Thank you.

All,

I posted the compiled circuit on Photobucket (see previous post for link). This circuit fit on a little 2x2 CB from Radio Shack (except for the MOSFETs, pots, and coil). I hope this will help many people to replicate UFO's fine device.

I live in Shelbyville, TN (middle TN). Does anybody on this forum live within a 4-6 hour drive? We should pull together a mini-conferene for a weekend.

Good luck,

Bob
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Hey Bob,

Great data collection as per usual and thanks for uploading the drawing with the corrected wire (looking and do not see it?). Other than changing the capacitor from 0.1uF to 0.01uF going to +VCC, parallel with the non-inverting pins and another pot added in series with pin 2 in parallel with the inverting pins/inputs.

Did I miss something mate?

P.S - Cant wait for other order I placed an order for more LM339's

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Zero,

I replaced the 100k ohm resistor with a pot so I could go to 0 ohms for higher frequenceis. I am actually goin to try putting a third 100k pot in series there to see if I can go higher yet. Another thing I needed to test was how low a frquency the .01uF cap will allow for start up. I was using a Decade capacitor box and switched from higher capacity down to the .01uF mid tuning. But now I burned up stuff so that may get postponed awaiting parts. Bummer.

Knock yourself out, bud,

Bob
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After numerous tries I ditched my original Coil (18 gauge single stranded, 260 turns, CW, three layers) and replaced it with a bifilar coil (22 awg multi stranded PVC isolated, 250 turns, CW, five layers).
I must say with instant success..
Have very bright CFL bulb light (need sun glasses) at 280.5 Hz (no anomalies though).

This is the stuff I used for my circuit:
First schema of Mad Scientist, with C1 0.01 uF and VR1 47k Pot, attached to two 31DF4 7A diodes in series with two 1N4148 diodes at cold site.
Powered the circuit with LM317 converting 24V to 13.5V.
I am using three salvaged Mosfet's of type 47N60C3.
Using three 12V5Ah Lead Acid batteries for driving the system.

The coil is getting warm, the Mosfet's and LM317 are cold.

Thank you all and especially Mad Scientist and Ufo

Bert

Ps. Need order/buy neon bulbs.

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Great. Now you are on board. Don't change more than one thing at a time and keep records. That path will show you even more. Hot coil may be too much duty cycle or too high draw. Work with it, get Bob and I have seen that 36 volts does cause heat in places. If you cant get coil cool, back dowm to 24 volts and do your tuning and getting to know the system. When your are ready, go back up in voltage and it should be easier to fix.
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Thank you for your kind words, tips and all information you post here
I will test if 24 volt will generate less heat.
Appreciate it.

Was thinking if it would be feasible to drive the coil at his natural resonance frequency so it will dissipate less power..

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Hot coils.

bbem,

I don't like seeing anything heat up, but we are using Hot current to make the magnetic field in the coil in order to draw the RE. So I guess the coil will heat up from that. We want to minimize that, but lately my coil has been running about 20 degrees above ambient temperature.

Al and the Honorable UFOl,

At this time I'm not too worried because I'm starting to get some good results with the charging. I posted the data of a test in progress and will now share the final data from that test. When I got back to measure the batteries, the system had already stopped, having run out of input. The Primary was at 7.98v! The charge battery bank was sitting at 37.3v, which was OK because it had started at 31.36v (a gain of 5.94v, not bad). These measurements were made at 9:00PM last night. Today at 3:40PM, I measured them again. The Primary had recovered to 34.42v!!! And the charge bank was at 3.73v STILL. Usually they will loose some just sitting and this was 18 hours later...no loss at all. This is the kind of characteristics we are going to get as we condition the batteries by charging them with RE.

So,the Primary lost 3.58v and the charge bank gained 5.94v. That's paying 60 to get 100. These two banks are identical (same voltage, amp rating, model and brand...exact. Apples for apples.) They are starting to show signs of getting conditioned. This where real magic starts. It's the batteries, not just the system that makes this spectaular.

I'm working on modifying my device to use an MJL2119 in the place of my blown MOSFETs while I'm waiting for my parts to come.

Take care and enjoy,

Bob
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Hello To All!!

Hello to All!!

Hey, I am very glad it is all working out for all of You!!...I am really enjoying all this successful testings!!

@Bob French:

Yes Bob, charging them batteries with RE , which is a kind of High Frequency current makes wonder when inserted directly on the acid...however have to make starting tests at lower RE Frequencies. Now this is something I wanted to ask you...Did you measure the Hertz at the RE Output?...Its reading is supposed to get higher frequency than Hot field, I have done it with Two Meters to be able to watch both readings to compare...Input and Output Freq. from Hot Cold...
The thing is the Higher Frequencies of RE De-Sulphates the cells by its type of pulsing currents, and like you've said, as Mr Bedini said...it also crystallize them...I will start using a very old and bad battery to run this test...

Will love to go to Tennessee and participate in that meeting with you guys...Too bad distance and time is a killer...

Related to CF isolation I have a special sleeve-spaghetti very fine tubing made of threaded fiberglass, like a cloth, very strong, it comes in different sizes rolls, and stands the heat 'cause its made for motors-generators isolation from the windings to commutator elements...The one I buy is from DELFINGEN, and comes in awg gauge, I have a 20 awg roll NU-AG155C1 #20, I get them in my Wire Motor supplies store. I believe this should be a heck of an isolation for CF, but it will have to be sewn , kind off...with a wire to go through, since Carbon fiber is so soft...

@Bbem: Man I am so happy you finally got the Lady!!...lol
Now be patient with Her...she is very "special"...
The Mosfet's should be very low rates of RdsOn to Milli-ohms also capable of ultra-fast switching and to handle large amperage at pulsed DC ...The Diodes to control flow, should also be Ultra-Fast and the fastest recovery possible...I like the NTE 576/UF505 because they are rated under the 35 nano sec's recovery, and can handle up to 150 Amps and 400 Volts...that's pretty good.

Welcome aboard!!

@ OrionLightShip and ZPE,

Great video ZPE!...
However ,I have found the RE Field manifests at very center of coil, now, it does it along the vertical line of coil axis...and also at center perpendicular plane related to a normal vertically set rounded and cylindrical Coil...There are ways to make this field form different than this, by the configuration of coil...
As you increase the frequency, the RE Field expands in this two planes, at a pretty equal distribution...
But yes, ZPE you are completely right, this exchange of fields have incredible strength, and yet, it has NOT been used for Motor great potential and efficiency that could be achieved...Imagine we get a Free Spin and force from RE Field...
Well, I have done that test...an Asymmetrical Single Coil , No Steel...Fiberglass...and rotating a very heavy laminated steel armature-rotor...and also magnet rotors...so get ready...same outputs and more as this coil as it rotates.


Cheers and Regards to All


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Hello UFO
I want to apologize for the last dumb question. I am a 20 year electronic tech and I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around your concept, but the light is coming on slowly. I am 68 years old and retired so I haven't been involved to any extent for a while and do have preconceived notions about electronics, but have a very open mind and know there has to be more than I have been taught.
I think I have found one of the things I missed. You are not powering the secondary coil with the magnetic flux link between the coils (conventional way to power the secondary), but putting the secondary coil in the circuit in series with the primary and driving it with the back/counter EMF of the primary.
I am going back and compile your instructions in to a document which will be much easier to follow. Once compiled I will email it to you for critique and proofing.

Thanks again for sharing
Regards
Larry


Hey Larry,

You do not have to apologize here to me, it is a completely logical question, and You've made it wonderfully displayed. On the contrary, my original circuit posted here, looks like is a complete "anomaly" , to a point "an insult" to many here...or to anyone that have even "light" experience in electronics-electrical circuits...It was also weird to me in the beginning of my findings...and I honestly laughed when I started making my first successful testings that proved I was right. I really could not believe it myself.

However, from that first time to now...I have completely changed the way I used to look at Electrodynamic Machines...and to All Electromagnetic Fields-Interactions in general taking place in any circuit where they configure a center component...like an Inductor or a Transformer.

I had to go back to my -by then- "Old Motor Set-Up" and re arrange them accordingly to this new findings...it has been a long and hard work...but it was worthy.

I have also enjoyed to go back an run a "Historical" review of Why this had happened and when in time...along our History...

There are many great men I had read, that had contributed to answer my questions...like Mr. Tom Bearden (Energy from the Vacuum Book and sites)...He dedicated three decades of his life to discover when how and why this happened...I highly recommend his book.
Another great Man that had inspired me all along was Mr Peter Lindemann...I have read many of his articles and re-posted them in as many sites as I have had access to...including Facebook Groups... I also recommend all the literature and DVD's you could get your hands on from him...

I also have followed many great scientists related to FE Inventions...I have read their patents...their books...However, the main one I always have followed and admired, not only because his genius inventions...but because He was a great man and a Humanitarian at large..was DR. Nikola Tesla, Rest in Peace...

Larry Ross, it is a great pleasure and very good to have a person of such an experience in this fields here with Us like You, Larry...and that you could also replicate my findings going by the successful tests done by Bob French, based on the Great circuit rendered here from Mad Scientist...

THANK YOU AGAIN MAD SCIENTIST!!>>>

I also want to thank Bob French again (I think I will never stop doing it!!)...just for coming back here to show Us all the proof of His testings along with his "upgraded set-up"...Thanks Bob!!

I say that , just because I know that many here have replicated my circuit...and were very successful (it is a really simple set-up, and with the thousands of experienced people here... it is almost impossible that this far down...just Bob French comes up here?)...Some have approached to me through Facebook and You Tube...in private messages, to tell me "My Circuit Rocks"...some I have ask them to come here and post it...some did, some never did...But it is totally Ok, is part of "Human Behavior"...I understand them...why they never came back -like You did Bob- to show IT WORKS WONDERFUL !!

Welcome again Larry, and please feel free to ask any questions you may have in the future...I will be here for You, as all this other great guys here replicating successfully this set-up.



Warm regards my friend!!


Cheers


Ufopolitics

P.D: Larry, You've asked me about the Motor thread (by the way, I have noticed a lot of new threads related to motors "enhancements" popping out recently?!..coincidence?...lol)...well, I am still working in a Model to show pictures-videos off...It is an Open Model (No Frame Housing covering components), mounted on a piece of wood, front and rear mounts and completely open...made in order to make "exchangeable" all the different types of stators and rotors configurations so that the viewers could have a complete idea of what They could build in a near future...
Besides that, I am working in two videos I want to release first, One is the lighting of an HID High Discharge Sodium 70 Watts Assembly (with Transformer and starter, no Cap) with just two primary Coil output, one solid steel, and one hollow...
Then a second video on Isolated Internal Core Secondaries and their magnified output, as the Geometrical planes where they manifest.
I consider this videos and discussion necessary before moving on to more complex rotating machines disclosure...it will help also to make changes-improvements on existing ones.
And yes, you are completely right my friend...I try to keep the "normal induction" from Hot not to be "successful" in my secondaries...but like you call it...the B or C EMF Induction...

Sorry for such a long post...

Regards again

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bbem,

I don't like seeing anything heat up, but we are using Hot current to make the magnetic field in the coil in order to draw the RE. So I guess the coil will heat up from that. We want to minimize that, but lately my coil has been running about 20 degrees above ambient temperature.

Al and the Honorable UFOl,

At this time I'm not too worried because I'm starting to get some good results with the charging. I posted the data of a test in progress and will now share the final data from that test. When I got back to measure the batteries, the system had already stopped, having run out of input. The Primary was at 7.98v! The charge battery bank was sitting at 37.3v, which was OK because it had started at 31.36v (a gain of 5.94v, not bad). These measurements were made at 9:00PM last night. Today at 3:40PM, I measured them again. The Primary had recovered to 34.42v!!! And the charge bank was at 3.73v STILL. Usually they will loose some just sitting and this was 18 hours later...no loss at all. This is the kind of characteristics we are going to get as we condition the batteries by charging them with RE.

So,the Primary lost 3.58v and the charge bank gained 5.94v. That's paying 60 to get 100. These two banks are identical (same voltage, amp rating, model and brand...exact. Apples for apples.) They are starting to show signs of getting conditioned. This where real magic starts. It's the batteries, not just the system that makes this spectaular.

I'm working on modifying my device to use an MJL2119 in the place of my blown MOSFETs while I'm waiting for my parts to come.

Take care and enjoy,

Bob

Hello Bob,

Here is a picture of one of my rotors with this sleeves -I was writing about before- on the wires (the roll in the back ground) that I think could be used to isolate the TOW Carbon Fiber strands...


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Bob, I live in Henderson,Tn. 13mi east of Jackson 100mi north of Memphis. Very Glad someone in this study lives close to me.

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Hi ALL,
wonderful thread! Can't stop reading since several days. Thanks for all your sharing, lots of open minded and knowledgeabele minds here . Thanks Ufopolitics for givng freely your notion to the community, to the world. It is very much apprecited.
It is the first time I found basics where we can put hands on in order to engineer them. This will foster lots of other replications like Don's device.

To introduce myself: My background is electronics - mainly digital. I tried for several month to grasp basics of Don's device and did not succeed. I am eager to learn these basics. Important: I will respect kind behaviour and omit any disturbing arguing! I'd like to act in concert with all of you!

I will be back after reading all posts. But I'd like to share some notions in advance:

1. Be careful with carbon fibres! Broken parts enter your flesh and will not come out - unlike glass fibres. Carbon fibres will travel in your body for the rest of your life! Nobody knows where they end up and what they do there. It might be similar to asbestos fibres. Not the chemical material but the size of fibres affect our health. Prevent getting contact with ends of fibres and remove any with forceps thoroughly.

2. There is one of Don's schematics with this strange voltage devider. Maybe it is a strong requirement to use carbon resistors in order to pass / filter hot and cold!

3. @Ufo: I like your poetic view! To my understanding SHE is not white but dressed with shimmering and rainbow coloured cloth. But I will not argue about this

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Hey UFO,

I could not help myself and made a video with a fresh neon bulb.
Have you found that after a few mins the neon stops generating the white/purple Radiant flashes and only has the plasma across the 2 legs?

Circuit is set to 44Hz at 89% duty cycle TL. I was only running the tests for 2-3 mins to let to NPN transistor cool down. I'm sure I will solder a full astable timer circuit, including the LM317 in the next few days untill the op amp (LM339 is from the UK) and the US parts arrive .

Enjoy my friend and looking forward to your comments
Plasma Effects in a Neon Bulb due to Radiant Anomolies at 44Hz - 15th May 2012.AVI - YouTube

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Zero

Hey UFO,

I just wanted you to clarify what the main circuit variables you want all to replicate are?

The simple PWM circuit with a 555 timer is all people need to replicate your experiments with the neon as I did. Therefore, is there a prerequisite for the circuit voltage that you wish?
12V is fine to fire an NPN transistor but when I used MOSFET's and stepped up to 24-36V I had to use the LM317 to regulate the voltage to the 555 timer.
I have more parts in the mail (hope the NTE products from the US) and if so I will make up a a new PWM circuit with the LM339, or LM393 (8 pin for N-channel FET's is all we need as other side of the LM339 is not used) and then can run at higher voltages without regulation. Do you have a preference for your circuit?

And do you want me to post circuits? My test circuit is very close to your original set-up.

The Radiant effects I have replicated from this post appeal to me more than charging batteries do and have done this daily for the last year. With these Radiant anomolies that create plasma effects may be an outside experiment . Would be more than I hit batteries with SSG/SS SSG voltages. (only 400-600V with output disconnected at 12V input)
Running lights on pure Radiant cold electricity reasonates with me.

Analysing the still frames from the Radiant event my conclusion is, Radiant starts oscillating in the two legs as plasma, frequency increases (as seen on DMM on the cold side of the diode) then we obtain the Radiant gas seen in the neon as a white centre with green gas outer shell, Radiant will increase potential between the neons legs creating the purple plasma effect at the correct frequency/oscillations, next we obtain the white flash with orbs seen coming from the metal leg/s in the neon and a finally the red aura is seen at the brightest moment generated from the outside of the neon bulb.
This is the way I see the effect and how the digital camera managed to record these anomolies (we only see the Green gas and purple plasma effect with our eyes)

Can you confirm this from your experiments?

P.S - Discharging capacitors with the stored Radiant energy will generate these same properties. However, the plasma is not contained like in the neon and will appear in the frame as the Radiant gas appears. (if you have the camera a certain distance from the discharge) This is ALWAYS before current flow if you obtain this cold energy in the output.

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@ OrionLightShip and ZPE,

Great video ZPE!...
However ,I have found the RE Field manifests at very center of coil, now, it does it along the vertical line of coil axis...and also at center perpendicular plane related to a normal vertically set rounded and cylindrical Coil...There are ways to make this field form different than this, by the configuration of coil...
As you increase the frequency, the RE Field expands in this two planes, at a pretty equal distribution...
But yes, ZPE you are completely right, this exchange of fields have incredible strength, and yet, it has NOT been used for Motor great potential and efficiency that could be achieved...Imagine we get a Free Spin and force from RE Field...
Well, I have done that test...an Asymmetrical Single Coil , No Steel...Fiberglass...and rotating a very heavy laminated steel armature-rotor...and also magnet rotors...so get ready...same outputs and more as this coil as it rotates.


Cheers and Regards to All


Ufopolitics

Hey UFO,

Thanks for the reply and when I go and have a part machined for my Kromrey this week and I will have a new larger Acrylic coil engineered with a smaller long tube to insert with holes drilled to line up with the bloch wall.
This will allow for further experimentation on other concepts you have shared with all here.

Regards
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Ever Heard of Asymmetrical Motor-Generator's Stators and Rotors NOT BLDC or Three-Six Phase? No, right?...Well you will soon.

Related to the third video: I am still working on it..will release soon, it is about Isolated Secondaries set-up in both planes of Radiant Field: Horizontal and Vertical.

Cheers

Ufopolitics

Hallo Ufo,

sorry for late reply, I was out of town and tmrw will be again off line. There is no net in jungle

There are no asymmetrical machines available, and nobody saw them. But yes, you can built one if you want and know how to do it. You are motor builder and I can see that sparkles commutator is really motivating you
And I believe you will get good results soon.
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Hot components vs frequency and D.C.

Hallo all again,

overheated coils and transistors are due to low frequency and high duty cycle.
The best way is to go with frequency as high as possible and use D.C. to adjust output voltage for light. I have 230VAC system and max voltage on DC side of lamp is around 230V.

When I drive my coil from 80Hz slowly up, on 50% D.C. voltage burst is over 450V when I reach around 250Hz. When frequency is going still up, voltage goes down and HOT current as well. I stop dialing frequency on point when 230VDC appears on lamp (after diodes and with capacitor).

This voltage peak can easily destroy lamp itself. So I am doing following:

Start freq, 80Hz, D.C. 50% -> dialing up -> voltage goes high -> once 230VDC is reached I simultaneously keep dialing freg. UP and D.C down to compensate output voltage. From certain frequency (depends on coil, in my case 1KHz) is significant current drop on HOT side. I can drive 230V/25W incandescent light bulb with 35V/1A. Transistor is cold, coil is slightly warm. So there is around 10W needed for this conversion.

I have also small coil and frequency can go up to 100kHz. There are few nodes on the way up, where voltage peaks appear. This coil is driving same lamp, with same intensity, but when frequency is above 15kHz, hot current is going down even more..... I have same output voltage even on 80hKz and around 50% D.C with only 35V.

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As Ufo said, better way how to get more radiant in, is to have two side driver. I've posted this schematics earlier and its simplest way how to do if with N-FET
or IGBT. Output will be totally isolated from source and we should get more radiant in.... I don't have time to test it now, but next week will be back and do some experiments.

Regarding circuit, its very simple driver and could be connected to any generator source. Input voltage pulse max. 15VDC !

Sorry Ufo, but I don't want to do it with P - FET

There exist Bedini version vith NPN / PNP and you can find it here : Is this the first selfrunning overunity motor w/o batteries ? Mike?s motor

I have also another idea how to separate HOT / COLD generation of pulses and it should have significant hot current drop effect.... Need to do experiment....

cheers,

Cinan
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Hi ALL,
wonderful thread! Can't stop reading since several days. Thanks for all your sharing, lots of open minded and knowledgeabele minds here . Thanks Ufopolitics for givng freely your notion to the community, to the world. It is very much apprecited.
It is the first time I found basics where we can put hands on in order to engineer them. This will foster lots of other replications like Don's device.
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rgds John
Hallo John,

so you've finally find this forum too I was so bored in DS thread and almost forgot about it.... It seems like there is no significant progress there and I guess that ZZZ is still throwing crap and pulling people's legs.

Ufo did some research here and we'll see where we get. Welcome here and participate

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Hi ALL,
wonderful thread! Can't stop reading since several days. Thanks for all your sharing, lots of open minded and knowledgeabele minds here . Thanks Ufopolitics for givng freely your notion to the community, to the world. It is very much apprecited.
It is the first time I found basics where we can put hands on in order to engineer them. This will foster lots of other replications like Don's device.

To introduce myself: My background is electronics - mainly digital. I tried for several month to grasp basics of Don's device and did not succeed. I am eager to learn these basics. Important: I will respect kind behaviour and omit any disturbing arguing! I'd like to act in concert with all of you!

I will be back after reading all posts. But I'd like to share some notions in advance:

1. Be careful with carbon fibres! Broken parts enter your flesh and will not come out - unlike glass fibres. Carbon fibres will travel in your body for the rest of your life! Nobody knows where they end up and what they do there. It might be similar to asbestos fibres. Not the chemical material but the size of fibres affect our health. Prevent getting contact with ends of fibres and remove any with forceps thoroughly.

2. There is one of Don's schematics with this strange voltage devider. Maybe it is a strong requirement to use carbon resistors in order to pass / filter hot and cold!

3. @Ufo: I like your poetic view! To my understanding SHE is not white but dressed with shimmering and rainbow coloured cloth. But I will not argue about this

rgds John


John Stone!!

It is great to have here great minds and so expert in this fields!!
Then it would be a very simple circuit for you to duplicate...which is great, we will see your results hopefully pretty soon...

I have worked with Carbon Fibers for a while now...building prototypes that includes Vehicles ..so if it were to harm my health...I would not be here... ..However , I always use protection when I handle Fiberglass /Carbon fibers/Kevlar...
Anyways John...We all have to die one day or the other... but thanks for your advice...
They also say smoking cigarettes is very bad for your health...and what about all CO2 and other Hydro Carbons being around Us all, for more than One Century?...everything that "moves around" exhales those lethal fumes...?

But let's keep on Radiant...hopefully "She" will replace very soon all this ancient and obsolete burning fuels energy supply...

Is Ok to see "HER" as of many more colors as you like...I will not get jealous... but remember White is the presence of all colors ..


Welcome aboard John!!


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Hallo all again,

overheated coils and transistors are due to low frequency and high duty cycle.
The best way is to go with frequency as high as possible and use D.C. to adjust output voltage for light. I have 230VAC system and max voltage on DC side of lamp is around 230V.

When I drive my coil from 80Hz slowly up, on 50% D.C. voltage burst is over 450V when I reach around 250Hz. When frequency is going still up, voltage goes down and HOT current as well. I stop dialing frequency on point when 230VDC appears on lamp (after diodes and with capacitor).

This voltage peak can easily destroy lamp itself. So I am doing following:

Start freq, 80Hz, D.C. 50% -> dialing up -> voltage goes high -> once 230VDC is reached I simultaneously keep dialing freg. UP and D.C down to compensate output voltage. From certain frequency (depends on coil, in my case 1KHz) is significant current drop on HOT side. I can drive 230V/25W incandescent light bulb with 35V/1A. Transistor is cold, coil is slightly warm. So there is around 10W needed for this conversion.

I have also small coil and frequency can go up to 100kHz. There are few nodes on the way up, where voltage peaks appear. This coil is driving same lamp, with same intensity, but when frequency is above 15kHz, hot current is going down even more..... I have same output voltage even on 80hKz and around 50% D.C with only 35V.

Cinan

Hey there Cinan!

As always giving great advices about running the system in optimal conditions!!

Yes, I know you do not like P-Channels...me either...but for now they have worked out Ok...and still using my Old 555 timer circuit...Have to build me the LM339!!...I envy Bob French that did it!!...(joke)...

Definitively We need to work on the pulsations-oscillator system to make it more perfect and less power spent from our side...

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