Email exchange with Paul Andrew Mitchell, July 2012
I received a colorful email from Paul Andrew Mitchell who calls himself Private Attorney General, also posted at soundofheart.org. Since he posted it online and cc-ed his payed subscription mailing list, he apparantly has no objections to this being published. So, here we go:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Supreme Law Firm <xxx> Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:19 AM Subject: Private Attorney General's OBJECTIONS Re: The Fascinating History Of Civil Law Versus Divine Common Law
This same old lie -- that the Federal Government in the USA is a corporation -- has already been thoroughly refuted by verified evidence assembled by my office and filed in Courts of competent jurisdiction.
First and foremost, the U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled that the "United States" (Federal Government) is NOT a corporation: see U.S. v. Cooper Corporation cited and quoted here:
"UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" did incorporate twice in Delaware, but both corporations were later REVOKED by the Delaware Secretary of State:
Neither registered to do business in any of the other 49 States of the Union, as far as we know (we've confirmed with a few SOS):
Even in New York State -- the heart of the The Conspiracy -- neither registered to do business in that State:
Another impostor corporation was created with the name of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (added "THE" at the front of the name):
... and this one turned up domiciled in Scotland:
If you are interested in the exact details of our refutations, we got to the bottom of this "myth" here:
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/williamson2/appeal/reply.to.brief.for.appellee.htm (filed in the U.S. Court of Appeals in Denver, Colorado)
Secondly, the United States (Federal Government) has now properly and formerly declared insolvency with respect to obligations allegedly owed to the Federal Reserve Banks:
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/fox2/insolvency.htm (filed in a U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Eastern District of Washington)
So, both "legs" claiming authority for the Federal income tax have now been legally CUT OFF:
(1) there is no Statute at Large creating a specific liability for taxes imposed by subtitle A of the Internal Revenue Code:
http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/2amjur2d.htm (see Commissioner v. Acker, in chief) http://www.supremelaw.org/press/rels/subpoena.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/williamson2/appeal/nad06.htm (see Item (7) )
EVEN IF the IRS were a de jure service, bureau, office or other subdivision of the U.S. Department of the Treasury -- which they decidedly are NOT -- they would STILL have no authority to create a tax liability solely by means of implementing Regulations published in the Federal Register.
(2) the AUTOMATIC STAY authorized by 11 U.S.C. 362 has now been activated as a consequence of that DECLARATION OF INSOLVENCY:
Consequently, the Federal Reserve Banks and their collection agency, the IRS, are now legally BARRED from collecting any more Federal income taxes imposed by subtitle A of the Internal Revenue Code.
Thirdly, the terms "admiralty and maritime" in Article III of the Constitution are defined in Bouvier's Law Dictionary to refer to matters that arise on the high seas:
The term "sea" above does NOT refer in any manner to the Vatican: it refers to the large bodies of water the separate major land masses on planet Earth.
As such, "admiralty and maritime" are subject matters in American law; they do NOT refer to any particular kind of court.
As such, there is no such thing as an "admiralty court" under current American laws. On the contrary, certain Federal Courts have been given either original or appellate jurisdiction over cases involving matters arising on the high seas.
Sincerely yours, /s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Private Attorney General, 18 U.S.C. 1964(a) http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/agency/private.attorney.general.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/reading.list.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/index.htm (Home Page) http://www.supremelaw.org/support.policy.htm (Support Policy) http://www.supremelaw.org/guidelines.htm (Client Guidelines) http://www.supremelaw.org/support.guidelines.htm (Policy + Guidelines) All Rights Reserved without Prejudice
Thank you very much for your message and links. I haven't had time to follow all your links, but you certainly provide interesting information. I see from your resume that you have an interesting mixed background, including computer sciences. That tells me you think for yourself and do your own research. I have a background in Electrical Engineering and programmed in C++ for several years.
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Paul Andrew Mitchell <xxx> wrote: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Supreme Law Firm <xxx> > Date: Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:19 AM > Subject: > Private Attorney General's OBJECTIONS > Re: The Fascinating History Of Civil Law Versus Divine Common Law > > > > If the US removes the P2 fascist government run via the United States of America corporation, then all US > > external debts will not have to be paid by the American people. We are trying to bankrupt that war mongering > > and murdering corporation and their fascist overseers at the P2 Roman empire headquarters. >
This was a quote from Benjamin Fulford, BTW.
> > This same old lie -- that the Federal Government in the USA > is a corporation -- has already been thoroughly refuted > by verified evidence assembled by my office and > filed in Courts of competent jurisdiction. > > First and foremost, the U.S. Supreme Court has already > ruled that the "United States" (Federal Government) > is NOT a corporation: see U.S. v. Cooper Corporation > cited and quoted here: > > http://www.supremelaw.org/letters/us-v-usa.htm >
This one speaks about corporations under federal law:
"For an entity to become a corporation under federal law, there must be an Act of Congress creating that corporation."
How about a corporation under another jurisdiction, such as international civil law?
As far as I can tell, there are two fundamentally different jurisdictions:
1) Common law, whereby the people are sovereign;
2) Roman type civil law, whereby the people are subjects to some sovereign.
The original United States of America was established under common law. The question is whether or not there is a second "United States of America" under some civil law jurisdiction, whatever that exact jurisdiction may be and whatever the exact legal type of entity it may be.
It looks like you have to search further back in history to find this entity:
So, it appears to me that there may very well be a corporate US, under the jurisdiction of the King of England (operating as a vassal of the Vatican), which is why you will not find an act of congress creating it under US Federal law...
I have been pointed to the "Canons of Positive Law", which I link to in my article:
Given the behavior of the Vatican over the centuries, conquering Europe and such, it seems reasonable to me that these Canons are correct. However, I have not done any further research as to which sources were used in these Canons.
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:20:48 -0700 Subject: Re: Private Attorney General's OBJECTIONS Re: The Fascinating History Of Civil Law Versus Divine Common Law From: Paul Andrew Mitchell <xxx> To: Arend Lammertink <xxx> Cc: SupremeLaw <xxx>
Cognitive dissonance is not scholarship.
> I haven't had time to follow all your links http://www.supremelaw.org/letters/us-v-usa.htm
In United States v. Cooper Corporation, 312 U.S. 600 (1941), the U.S. Supreme Court wrote:
"UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" incorporated twice in Delaware, but both corporations were later REVOKED by the Delaware Secretary of State:
The British Army surrendered at Yorktown!!
United States Attorneys have no powers of attorney legally to represent foreign corporations: corporations chartered in the 50 States are "foreign corporations" with respect to the District of Columbia:
Also, an AUTOMATIC STAY is now in effect barring any further income tax collections by the Federal Reserve Banks or its collection agency, the Internal Revenue Service:
But, I decline to argue with you, because you have "not followed the links".
-- Sincerely yours, /s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Private Attorney General, 18 U.S.C. 1964 http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/agency/private.attorney.general.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/reading.list.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/index.htm (Home Page) http://www.supremelaw.org/support.policy.htm (Support Policy) http://www.supremelaw.org/guidelines.htm (Client Guidelines) http://www.supremelaw.org/support.guidelines.htm (Policy + Guidelines) All Rights Reserved without Prejudice
Arend Lammertink <xxx> Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:47 PM To: Paul Andrew Mitchell <xxx> > > But, I decline to argue with you, because you have "not followed the links". >
As if you were able to follow all the links I sent you and read all of it within 5 hours.
-- Arend --
Paul Andrew Mitchell <xxx> Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:03 PM To: Arend Lammertink <xxx> Cc: SupremeLaw <xxx>
Read the cases, Mr. Lammertink!
The U.S. Supreme Court has already spoken concerning your error: in the future, you might try citing and quoting U.S. v. Cooper Corp.
Cf. "stare decisis" as elaborated in U.S. v. Mason.
My unsolicited advice to you is to spend the next 12 months READING THE CASES.
Maybe then you and I can resume this correspondence, but I decline to do so before then.
p.s. Repeating for the benefit of all SupremeLaw subscribers, the Congress of the United States expressly extended the entire U.S. Constitution in D.C. in 1871; the common law is mentioned TWICE in the Seventh Amendment:
http://www.supremelaw.org/cc/gilberts/intentm3.filed.htm#1871 http://www.supremelaw.org/stat/16/16stat426.gif (Sec. 34, last sentence) http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=182&invol=244
It may be added in this connection, that to put at rest all doubts regarding the applicability of the Constitution to the District of Columbia, Congress by the act of February 21, 1871 (16 Stat. at L. 419, 426, chap. 62, 34), specifically extended the Constitution and laws of the United States to this District.
See also 42 U.S.C. 1988:
READ THE CASES!
Arend Lammertink <email@example.com> Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:55 PM To: Paul Andrew Mitchell <firstname.lastname@example.org> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Paul Andrew Mitchell <supremelawfirm> wrote: > Read the cases, Mr. Lammertink!
In your previous message you wrote:
And *that* is exactly the point I already made:
IF there is a "corporate" US entity, in whatever shape or form it may have, BESIDES the United States of America as founded by the people under Common Law, then you have to look for it OUTSIDE the jurisdiction of the United states.
And therefore, one can read as many cases under US jurisdiction as one feels like, one will not find a "corporate" US entity, if it exists or not.
One will have to look elsewhere, such as in international treaties like the 1783 Paris peace Treaty referred to in the material I sent you some links about:
The first sentence already says enough:
This Treaty was signed under the jurisdiction of Roman Civil law and under the ultimate sovereignty of the Vatican.
And here you can read how the US is still under the King of England and thus the sovereignty of the Vatican:
-- Arend --
Paul Andrew Mitchell <xxx> Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 6:58 PM To: Arend Lammertink <xxx>
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Sincerely yours, /s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Private Attorney General, 18 U.S.C. 1964(a) http://www.supremelaw.org/decs/agency/private.attorney.general.htm Criminal Investigator and Federal Witness: 18 U.S.C. 1510, 1512-13 http://www.supremelaw.org/support.policy.htm (Support Policy) http://www.supremelaw.org/guidelines.htm http://www.supremelaw.org/support.guidelines.htm (Policy + Guidelines) All Rights Reserved without Prejudice
It appears Mr. Mitchell does have quite a lot of interesting information on his site about the US legal system and how to use common law within that system.